Bungi Bill

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  we have a laid off bethelite with an engineering degree!

  by nowwhat? in

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  this guy have been at bethel for 25 years when he could have been making 75-100 thousand a year as an engineer.

  so they kick him to the curb so they don't have to house him and his wife anymore.

  they run into a problem at warwick and they ask him to come back for 3 weeks.

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  Bungi Bill

  University education does tend to be overly academic (the engineering courses, anyway), with the result that many graduate with no idea about how their learning relates to the real world.

  More than a few times, I - a mere busted @$$ electrician - have had to explain to graduate engineers what the various pieces of plant are in a High Voltage Switchyard. These guys knew all the theory about how such things as power transformers, circuit breakers, instrument transformers, static capacitor banks etc. function; but just could not recognize one if they saw it! Another graduate engineer was compiling a maintenance procedure for the standby diesel generators, but did not know what "crank case blow-by" was. It was left to somebody like me -who had grown up in an era when you both could work on your own car, but couldn't afford to pay somebody else to do so - to enlighten him!

  However, rightly or wrongly, the emphasis today is on academic qualifications ahead of practical experience. I learned that the hard way; a realisation that sent me back to school four years ago to obtain at least an Advanced Diploma. That qualification did help me in getting my present job, though it is doubtful whether the Advanced Diploma course added much to my technical knowledge.

  PS: Sorry if this sounds like a disgruntled old veteran complaining that "the new guys aren't as good as we was"!
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses a cult just as evil and dangerous as Islam?

  by cookiemaster in

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  i know you might think i'm exaggerating but if you really think about it, maybe i'm not.

  these two religions originate with the same ancient belief system.

  islam is a dangerous middle eastern cult that seeks to control every aspect of its members' lives.

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  Bungi Bill

  I don't know that the rise of secularism had anything to do with Christianity.

  Whatever peaceful message Jesus Christ preached, it still failed to prevent Christians from carrying out the most savage of atrocities on each other (and also on persons of other religions, including Jews and Muslims). I know that different things frighten different people, but to me, burning people to death at the stake is an even more cruel way of killing them than stoning or beheading. Both Catholic inquisitions and Protestant reformers were guilty of carrying out this "cruel and unusual" form of punishment - and all in the name of the "Prince of Peace", Jesus Christ!

  In 19th Century New Zealand, it took the newly-converted Maori people very little time to wake up to these facts. They quickly noted that the Ten Commandments took a distant second place between Monday morning and midnight Saturday - then got placed on indefinite Leave of Absence whenever there was a war on!

  Similarly, the same point was not lost on African people. So much so that they developed a parody of the hymn "Onward Christian Soldiers", which reads:

  Onward Christian soldiers, into heathen lands,

  Prayer books in your pockets, rifles in your hands.

  Bring the happy tidings, of where trade might be done,

  Preach your Peaceful Gospel, with the Maxim gun.

  (Those familiar with firearms will know that the Maxim was the world's first automatically-firing machine gun. During the late 18th and early 20th Centuries, it was the Weapon of Mass Destruction. European colonial powers made widespread use of it to "pacify" the "savages" of Asia and Africa). )

  As all of us here should be aware (being former JWs), people can read the bible until they are figuratively "blue in the face", it still does not necessarily turn them into better people. Our enlightened Western society is definitely the product of Secularism, not of reading the bible.

  Whether or not Secularism is the natural result of Christianity, though, is quite another matter. It could possibly be argued that Secularism gradually evolved in response to such disasters as the Thirty Years War (1618 - 1648), or the Spanish Inquisitions; with a view to keeping all future religious disputes to the verbal level? If so, it largely succeeded - whereas Jesus Christ's "Gospel of Peace" had very little effect on matters!
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Bungi Bill

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  Time for a new type/anti-type, G.B? 2033 is the new 1975!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  a well known scripture says, "however, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 peter 3:8) .

  using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:.

  matthew 16:21 says, ".....the christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while john 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "on the first day of the week, mary magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb.

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  Bungi Bill

  The sad thing is that were the GB to try something like this, enough of the R&F would have sufficient capacity for self-delusion to fall for it.

  1975 is now a distant memory, just like 1925 was a distant memory during the lead-up to 1975. However, it is unlikely to happen, as there is no 21st Century equivalent of FW Franz amongst them. (Thank goodness!)
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Bungi Bill

  If capitalism requires "a lot of regulations and control", then communism requires that in spades! The communist countries were highly bureaucratic in nature, which was one of the things that led to their demise.
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Bungi Bill

  Ironically, at the time many of my generation were leaning towards communism (i.e. in the late 1960s / early 1970s), those living under communism had already realised it was a failure. Not, of course, that they could voice those opinions too loudly!

  That anything got done at all in the communist countries of Eastern Europe was due entirely to an informal (and illegal) barter economy that operated by default. (That from a work colleague who managed to defect from Romania while Ceausescu was still in charge).
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Bungi Bill

  Or "Communism / Socialism won't work because Communists / Socialists won't work"

  - In other words, the inevitable result of removing all incentives to do anything extra. (An attitude quickly develops of "why bother, you get no thanks for it").
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  Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain

  by Listener in

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  the watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.

  w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.

  they are no longer certain on this point.

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  Bungi Bill

  If this is not a complete turnaround, then it is very close to it!

  So much for the old, popularly held JW belief that nobody had knowledge of the Koine Greek language to match that of FW Franz. (And all that talk in the Truth book about the Greek words "stauros", "xylon" etc.)
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  No go field service days

  by Steel in

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  it's canada day today and not just any canada day, it's canada's 150 birthday.

  for some strange reason i was actually able to reason with my wife day and she agreed with me.

  field service on a special day wouldn't be appropriate.

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  Bungi Bill

  Typically, that wouldn't stop them!

  In all my time with that lot, never was any consideration given to whether or not it was a "good" time or day to attempt to speak to people.
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  Islam terrorist finally gets it right

  by _Morpheus in

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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4642504/amp/isis-suicide-bomber-kills-12-comrades-wishing-luck.html.

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  Bungi Bill

  Certainly plausible!

  That is the sort of thing that can happen when amateurs start playing with explosives. (And one of the reasons why, in countries like this, the sale and handling of explosives is strictly licensed).